59 Comments

  1. I’m one who applauds you on this, Jennifer.

    I’m not in the market for new urls right now, but wow, if I were I’d jump on this.

    Of course it is completely ethical! No question!

    1. PotPieGirl says:

      THANK YOU, Diane!
      I’ve been sitting here watching for comments with dread and just waiting for “it”…SO nice to see a positive first comment from someone who gets it!

      THANK YOU!

      Jennifer
      ~PotPieGirl

      1. hello Jennifer

        I like your way of thinking and Squidoo approach with this method

        I’m not a master at this model, however, your article helps even newbies like me (on this topic) to learn about lens and reclaiming their URLs…

        By the way, I’ve heard Google nowadays updates their INDEX every 30 days… what do you know about this?

        1. PotPieGirl says:

          Hiya Ryan

          Glad the info here helped =) As for Google… they are ALWAYS updating their index. Once upon a time, their index was only updated that often, but not anymore.

          Thanks for stopping by!

  2. Why would people bash YOU about this? You didn’t create the situation, you’re just pointing out what SQUIDOO has done. As you said, if people want their lenses, they’re certainly allowed to reclaim them. In fact, thank YOU for pointing this out. I didn’t have any lenses locked, fortunately (I only have 5), but I’ll be sure to watch out for this in the future. And now I know what to do, should that ever happen.

    1. PotPieGirl says:

      Glad it helps, Tony!

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

      Jennifer
      ~PotPieGirl

  3. Great post…the haterz complained because they don’t know how to find locked lenses. Now that you have explained how to do it no one will complain. Personally I have been doing this for 2 years. I have been a member of Semrush for 3 years. Just have never thought about selling the lists. Idea!!!

    1. PotPieGirl says:

      Thanks, Conray!!

  4. I think it is very important and you have made the point well that you are running a business. I am also running a business and if I can find a way of legally making money and not hurting others then of course I will do that. To be honest Jennifer, I am just jealous that I didn’t think of this in the first place.

    People did get their lenses locked for a whole variety of reasons but I don’t want to get into all of that. For years Internet marketers told “newbies” to build a lens at Squidoo and get a PR7 link back to the site. Apart from that not being true it also caused a whole heap of junk and spun content to be put on Squidoo.

    Then there were the usual spammers and robot automated articles dumped on there as well. The reality was that a lot of what was on there was little more than junk. Did it need cleaned out? For sure it did. The problem was the way Squidoo didn’t clearly communicate their intentions that was the problem for all the angry people out there.

    I also point my finger at Internet Marketers who have sold Squidoo courses that told people to chuck lenses on Squidoo and make money. Let’s face it, if you build your business on using anything that is free that is insane. The few courses that I did look at where junk as well.

    The “problem” with what you are doing is this. The righteous and the “learned” believe that their writing is precious. The Seth Godin followers and Masters and Mistresses of the pen think Squidoo is some place for the best writers in the world, even though they pretend it doesn’t matter. If someone bought your list and made good quality lenses that would outrage them. The reason…they might rank higher than these bastions of writing.

    Personally I say good luck to anyone who gets the list, makes good content and earns a few dollars.

    The reason I didn’t buy your list was simple. If you had been selling individual sets of these say at $20 for 20 URLS, I would have bought 3-4 sets. I may even have bought more if they were lenses I liked. However buying one big list that has been sold to many people means they will either all be claimed or only the useless ones would be left. That isn’t good value to me.

    People sell keyword lists, niche packs , PLR all the time. Doing this is not anything different and just a pretty clever idea. It did get me thinking and I did find a way of finding Gone Fishing lenses on Google. I found about 400 and about 10 of them interested me.

    You are an honest and ethical person as far as I am concerned and just because you treat this as a business should not be something that people then think is somehow wrong. Good luck to you.

    1. PotPieGirl says:

      Wow, amazing feedback and insight – thank you for sharing!

      In regards to the packs of urls idea, something I will take into consideration. This is all new, so I learn as I go. If I was always afraid to screw up, I’d be paralyzed and never do ANYTHING at all. Thankfully, fear of failure is not a problem for me…lol!

      The problem with the smaller pack concept is that it’s really only good for one person. I am seeing major lens url squatting going on and I don’t think that helps anything. BUT it IS an “action taker” kind of situation so based on that, it’s their business, not mine.

      I had this warm ‘n fuzzy vision that folks would look thru all the keywords/urls and only pick ones they really wanted. I saw a lot available while putting the lists together that were totally on-topic of things I like to write about and/or niche sites I have, etc. I just don’t have enough hours in the day to snag them all AND build them out properly.

      Anyway… totally appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts. I agree with probably everything you’ve said 😉

      Jennifer
      ~PotPieGirl

      1. Thanks for the feedback. I can well imagine how much work there would be in trying to do smaller packs and tracking them etc. I guess the early bird catches the worm. I have never bought any of your courses Jennifer but you and Sara Young have a solid reputation out there for honesty and integrity. That is not going to go away so forget the “knockers” who spend their time moaning about other people’s business. I am just trying to figure this whole online business out myself which is probably a mistake but I am a stubborn old git.

        1. PotPieGirl says:

          You probably should sign me up for your “Stubborn Old Git” club because I’m probably as stubborn as they get!

          Thank you for your kind words (and yes, Sara is awesome!) – you stick to your guns and hang in there… you’ll get it!

  5. Jennifer, I’ve been your fan since I bought One Week Marketing last Dec and made my first sale in Jan and I still am. I bought your lists and have two sites up and a couple more in WIP and getting hits on all. I have “eyes” on more waiting for them to “go fish” and hopefully will get them when they hit the pond. I follow your blog and think you’re one of the smartest entrepreneurs in the field. Don’t let the haters get to you, it’s all jealousy and them wishing they were you! We just need to get an “Old Girl’s Network” going so we can support each other more!! Helen

    1. PotPieGirl says:

      Awesome, Helen! Way to take action!!! Glad to hear those reclaimed urls are doing well for you as well.

      Let me know when that network is ready! hahahhaha!

  6. I admire you jennifer and your whole back story. I see a whole lot of GREEN ENVY !!!!! Keep up the good work love your ideas and courage. I will still use your one week marketing program. I like to write so I will be mindful of the pages I create.

    1. PotPieGirl says:

      Thanks, Dee!!!

  7. Joe Rossi says:

    I think it’s brilliant, and nobody should be so upset with you for discussing it and/or profiting from it. Someone did shady things in the first place to get their lens locked, and they abandoned their lens instead of rewriting it… they gave it up. Nobody should be upset with you for this.

    1. PotPieGirl says:

      You wouldn’t think so, but…. well, doesn’t always work out that way =)

      Thanks, Joe!

  8. Jennifer,

    Thank you for creating this post. The same people who hate on you and Squidoo for this situation that SQ has created (which is really just them acting yet again on all the Squidoo spam lenses) are the same people who cry Foul Ball against Google when they do something with one of their services that causes things to go haywire for a bunch of people (Adsense, Adwords, search engine results, etc.).

    People just refuse to see that entities like Google and Squidoo and Facebook and plenty more are *businesses* and will do what’s in their best interest, in the short term and long term if they plan to be in it for the long haul.

    If you are using free services to make money online, then common sense should tell you to make such business models (and I use the term loosely since they are free) only *part* of your income. Do not put all of your eggs in one basket, always diversify!

    Good on ya, Jennifer, for seeing the business opportunity that this situation has created. I admire you for being someone willing to take action on current trends and for thinking somewhat outside the box. Obviously, as you have admitted, you were affected, too, by this SQ situation.

    Instead of sitting around and moaning and groaning, you reacted in as positive a manner as you could and are doing what you can to rectify the lenses that you care about (and hopefully deleting the ones that you don’t?). I especially appreciate your admission that some of your SQ lenses had crap content on them. More people should be as truthful with themselves.

    I wish you luck with redoing your locked lenses and with your current “lemonade” product and its on-going development/updates.

    Sadie

    1. PotPieGirl says:

      Thanks, Sadie!

      Oh yeah, some lenses shocked me when I actually looked at them for the first time in a while…. ugh-ola! For years, whenever I had an idea, I would just run and put up a Squidoo lens. If it got some traction, my mindset was that I could always go fix it up. Obviously, that didn’t always happen….hahaha!

  9. Jennifer,

    Actually Squidoo improved one or two things that I had publicly complained about; probably wasn’t because of me, but you never know.

    I’ve been trying to do the OWM thing the right way and am seeing a lot of Amazon sales coming through. Not buying the Ferrari just yet, but it seems to be gathering momentum.

    Hope it stays that way.

    Best,
    Roger

    1. PotPieGirl says:

      Hey Roger!

      Nice to hear the momentum is building up – that’s awesome!! It’s also nice to know changes are being made based on feedback (if it WAS you, then thank you!)

      Can’t wait to hear you got that Ferrari!!

  10. Hi Jen,

    I was a voluntary beta tester for Squidoo before it went public.

    I’ve also purchased and recommended your Squidoo lens builder guide — good stuff. As to your url-list business I hope it goes well. I see no harm in your actions, and I agree it is much better to get a page up rather than let a 404 error or WIP notice take its place.

    I’m a writer, using Squidoo has helped me improve my writing — thank you for your support of nice and easy to use Squidoo. I really enjoy the site, although I’ve made few lenses reccently. I’ve been traveling and life is too good to pause. Thanks for your consistancy.

    Keep up the good work.
    Allan

    1. PotPieGirl says:

      Hiya Allan!

      I *LOVE* hearing people say they are too busy enjoying life and traveling to make new lenses… awesome!

      I hope you’ve been to some amazing places!

  11. Wow, Jennifer, I can’t believe anyone bashed you over this. I think it’s a great idea to put out a list of Squidoo url’s that can be reclaimed.

    If the original owner wants them, they should grab them, as you said here, but there’s a good chance that some of them won’t be claimed by their original owners because they don’t want them any longer, so someone might as well take advantage of the already indexed pages.

    1. PotPieGirl says:

      Hey Denise =)

      I agree totally… no point hanging on to lens urls you don’t want (unless, of course, there is money on the dashboard).

  12. I have been following you for several years now and the thing I like most about you is your “never give up” attitude. Whether it’s Google algorithym changes or Squidoo locked lens, you do not sit around moaning and complaining. You immediately start figuring out a way to get over, under or around a problem. You come up with a plan, implement it and keep it moving. You remind me of the mice, “Sniff” and “Scurry” in one of my favorite books “Who moved my cheese”.

    I also like that you are willing to share your solutions with your readers. You seem to understand that there is enough money out there for all of us if wwe are willing to work for it. Continued success.

    1. PotPieGirl says:

      I LOVE that book!!! In fact, it’s been years since I read it last – I think I’ll read it again. It sure DOES apply to situations happening online now – and well, with life in general.

      Basically, I pretty much decided quite some time ago that you either roll with it, or get rolled over. As you said, there is PLENTY enough to go around, but it’s not gonna be handed to anyone. Ya gotta go get it.

      Good to see you, Val! Thanks for your comment!

  13. I only had a couple income producing lenses that got locked, so far. They were on page 1 but it’s only cost me about $80 – $100 a month. I moved all the content to blogger blogs, then took your advice and deleted them and re-grabbed the urls. Just need to write new content and then I’m going to link out to the blogger posts which have my affiliate links. Thanks for the tips.

    1. PotPieGirl says:

      Good job, Mike! That’s a perfect way to handle it!

  14. Given that Squid tells you via email the lenses is locked and you typically have several weeks to do something about it, what is the problem? I love that you see an opportunity, take it, share it, and make some cash doing it. Everyone wins.

    1. PotPieGirl says:

      Thanks, Julia!!!

  15. Jennifer, I am amazed that there are people who even thought to be negative about this. I read your post, thought “wow – that is brilliant – clever, clever, clever, logical” and went about my day. not even a shadow of a negative thought. So, I am only commenting to say – relax – those real marketers and newbies – whoever – out there can clearly see that you are genuine. I have been following you for 4 or 5 years – no unsubscribe all that time. We have even chatted via email back in 2009. I support you all the way. send me any local South African moaners – and I wil pop round to their homes and help realign their thinking 🙂

    1. PotPieGirl says:

      Hey Robert! Nice to see ya!

      Thanks for the kind words AND for the offer to “realign” some thinking (too funny!!)

  16. Thank you Jennifer for sharing amazing stuffs.
    This urls method is awesome and I am going get it do it … make it.
    I am not good at Squidoo but with your sharing I know I am able to achieve something good.

    1. PotPieGirl says:

      Thanks, James =) Just take your time with your urls and get some good content on it – and have fun!

  17. Hi Jennifer,

    I too started using Squidoo after reading One Week Marketing and joining WA. I am a fan of everything they are trying to do, but had not realised just how many keyword they had lost and the extent of the clean up. Fortunately to date I have only had one lens locked to date and it was essentially garbish and not worth salvaging. I had not thought about salvaging it for the age and keywords before!

    Very helpful post and sure if you can make money selling the list go for it!

    1. PotPieGirl says:

      Only one locked? That’s very impressive these days! hahahaha!

      Glad the post helped!

  18. Squidoo seems to be deleting a lot of lenses right now. Can you tell me how I can create a lens that Squidoo will approve of and not delete a couple of months from now?

    1. PotPieGirl says:

      Hey John –

      While no one can guarantee a “fool-proof” way to do this (rules change, etc), you should always be safe writing content from your personal point-of-view that is not designed to push any one “thing”. Also, as a self “quality check” – if you take all your affiliate links out, does the lens content still provide helpful info?

  19. Jennifer will there be new list frequently if so how frequent thanks

    1. PotPieGirl says:

      Complete new scans are usually completed the first week or so of each month – so if I do, it would be about the 2nd week of August.

  20. Thanks for all the great ideas Pot Pie Girl! They have really helped me with my campaigns and niche sites. Squidoo is a great way to promote your products as well and I currently use Squidoo for most of my articles!

    1. PotPieGirl says:

      You’re welcome, Richard! Thanks for stopping by!

  21. I’ve let your email sit, unopened, until today. Granted I laughed when I first read the title. Guess We all take a bashing every now and them. However I laughed even more reading this article. Not for the information. That’s great. But for all the people doing the bashing.

    Jennifer, you’re still my idol! Even if you’re a bit more beaten up and a lot more busied.
    Thanks for the smiles!

    1. PotPieGirl says:

      lol!! Thanks, Craig!

  22. Jennifer,

    When I saw your email about making lemonade out of lemons my first thought was – That Jennifer Ledbetter is so creative! I’m always inspired by you because you consistently come up with interesting ways of capitalizing on Squidoo. You are one of the few people that I follow who really does seem to care about those that use your products. Thank you for putting the package together. You really are helping everyone, Squidoo, your customers and internet users in general.

    1. PotPieGirl says:

      Hey Jill!

      I happen to love Squidoo and while I understand their clean up efforts, it saddens me to see really great lensmasters running for the hills. I feel there always other options before bailing (but I understand why many have).

      Thanks for stopping by!

  23. Hi Jen!

    Just wanted to stop by and add my own opinion that what you are doing is COMPLETELY ethical. No question about it.

    I’ve actually dabbled in this a bit (using a different service), so I can confirm that it works 🙂

    Sara

    1. PotPieGirl says:

      Hi Sara! Nice to see you!

      Obviously, I feel the same way. Kinda threw me for a loop when reading elsewhere online how “wrong” some others felt it to be. That’s why I decided to explain the concept behind it in more depth here and (hopefully) that’s cleared a lot of the misconceptions up.

      Hope all is well with you! Thanks for stopping by!

  24. Fantastic idea Jennifer – wish I had thought of it. Bet that’s also what the haters think!

  25. Thanks for all the all such precise ideas Pot Pie Girl! I have gone through the nichejet sites, they are very much supportive thanks once again.

  26. Since I have made the decision to come back to pot pie girl with a different attitude and know in my heart I will work much harder and not let go until I start making some money my sister will be learning with me this time around,

    In the mean time I cannot log on to squidoo wasted many hours trying to log on but now I know why I do not have an account with them at all 🙂 I am not upset about it but laughing @ all the time I wasted.
    I know Potpiegirl will teach us both together at the same time and this time I will have money for advertising and software that I will need.

  27. I have no problem with your offering whatever service you like 🙂 But there are several threads on the Squidoo forum about people re-using lens URLs and having the new lenses locked immediately, which is a bit worrying. In some cases for “duplicate content” even though the original lenses were deleted – I guess they remain in Google index for some time after deletion.

    The other problem I see is that I totally agree that “If a lens got locked for bad backlinks, the url should NOT be put back into the pool of available urls” … but they are! At the moment, ALL lens URLs are released back into the pool immediately. Can your software highlight/filter out those with bad backlinks?

  28. I would like to clear up a couple of point that have been made.

    1. The idea that all lenses that have been locked must have been doing “something shady” in the majority of cases the only “shady” thing lensmasters have been doing is trying to make some sales in a perfectly legitimate way that has been advocated by both Squidoo and yourself over the years. Many of these lensmasters (including myself) got all their lenses locked even including purely personal lenses with family photographs etc. in.

    2. The reason why some of us are not rushing to delete and reclaim our urls – I and others that I know have several locked lenses that have significant money sitting on the dashboard – in some cases hundreds of dollars. Squidoo have not stated what will happen to this money but I cannot afford to risk losing it all by deleting the lenses. However, if Squidoo deletes them before the next payout is due which is quite likely to happen, what happens then? It is horrible to think that someone may be sitting on a list of my urls just waiting to claim them if they can get to them before me.

    So I think it is quite easy to understand why a lot of people are upset at this list you are selling. By the way I did delete one lens I had locked, re-claimed the url immediately and wrote new original content for it only to have it locked again within a couple of days for “duplicate content”.

    1. Joe Rossi says:

      I believe when Squidoo locks and deletes your lens, all pending payment for royalties /commissions related to that lens are forfeited and given to a charity of Squidoos choice.

      1. This is what was said originally but that has since been refuted.

        1. Joe Rossi says:

          That’s what Squidoo says . Where was it refuted?

          1. It was quoted in the forum from a HQ email I think

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