Comments on: My Theory on the Google Algo Change/Farmer Update https://www.potpiegirl.com/my-theory-on-the-google-algo-change/ Fri, 26 Aug 2011 18:11:51 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.4 By: Sarah Drinkwater https://www.potpiegirl.com/my-theory-on-the-google-algo-change/#comment-10879 http://www.potpiegirl.com/?p=1770#comment-10879 I sometimes use these farm sites for backlinks, in fact I have some websites that are almost exclusively supported form these type of sites and I haven’t seen any negative effects on their search ranking – so maybe google’s updates only really effect the content farms and not the sites that they link out to.

]]> By: Susanna, The Small Ebiz Coach https://www.potpiegirl.com/my-theory-on-the-google-algo-change/#comment-10876 http://www.potpiegirl.com/?p=1770#comment-10876 OMG. I totally loved this article! I was actually thinking of trying to figure this out and am SO happy because now I don’t have to. YAY!

]]> By: Thomas https://www.potpiegirl.com/my-theory-on-the-google-algo-change/#comment-10859 http://www.potpiegirl.com/?p=1770#comment-10859 AWESOME post Pot Pie Girl. By far the best I have read about the Farmer Update.

And the Algo update only helps my websites out as I am not a part of any of those 7 SPAMMY niches.

There is way too much clutter out there and Im sure Google is wasting massive amounts of time and resources (money) crawling that junk.

It would be wise for those sites and even Press Release sites and directories to drop the junk.

I mean I have never bought penis pills or Acai Drinks. Have you?

My final comment is about hubpages. I hope they take a hit because it upsets me to add good content only to see my links turn to nofollow.

]]> By: Adam https://www.potpiegirl.com/my-theory-on-the-google-algo-change/#comment-10854 http://www.potpiegirl.com/?p=1770#comment-10854 just wanted to say you have impressed me with all those insights. keep it up.

]]> By: Fisayo @ Secrets of Entrepreneurship https://www.potpiegirl.com/my-theory-on-the-google-algo-change/#comment-10844 http://www.potpiegirl.com/?p=1770#comment-10844 Great informative post Jen. Thanks for the analysis

]]> By: GreenEyes https://www.potpiegirl.com/my-theory-on-the-google-algo-change/#comment-10829 http://www.potpiegirl.com/?p=1770#comment-10829 I have an issue with the “no-follow” links theory. I can see how people might use them to hoard link juice, but if you have paying advertisers, you are told that Google wishes you to add “no-follow” to identify them. Are you being penalized because you are identifying the paying advertisers, even if such paying advertisers are part of directories which people regularly visit and where advertisers which to have a strong presence? I am confused. Which rule should we follow to not be penalized (not that I expect an answer). This may be just one of the factors, as I cannot make heads or tails as to why our great content is being penalized (our article pages have no ads).

]]> By: Lovina https://www.potpiegirl.com/my-theory-on-the-google-algo-change/#comment-10823 http://www.potpiegirl.com/?p=1770#comment-10823 Hi Jenni,

this is the first article I’ve read about the Google change that shows some analysis rather than personal opinion or experience. Cool!

What is surprising is the results of your investigation work, it really all makes sense, like nothing else I read did. Thanks so much, I think I’ll be giving article writing and submission a break for a while.

I’m not sure Google can avoiding indexing spam content by this measure alone, and hitting the whole article directory is really kind of hard on the good stuff too. If the issue is about just gaining links through articles, won’t SEO just look to links elsewhere?

Love your blog, thanks so much!

Lovina

]]> By: Auto Repair https://www.potpiegirl.com/my-theory-on-the-google-algo-change/#comment-10821 http://www.potpiegirl.com/?p=1770#comment-10821 Great post, Jennifer. I can certainly understand why Google is making changes to get rid of all of the “fluff” and EzineArticles and the others should pay the price.

In your table, I found another bit of data that I found interesting, also. For the search term “pc for tv”, EzineArticles showed 12,100 sites using that phrase and ArticlesBase showed 142,000. Now, for using that phrase in the URL, EzineArticles showed only 6 while ArticlesBase showed 10,000. Why is that term being used so much on ArticlesBase and not the other sites? Doesn’t figure.

Well, I found this bit of info interesting,too!

Thanks.

]]> By: Tony https://www.potpiegirl.com/my-theory-on-the-google-algo-change/#comment-10819 http://www.potpiegirl.com/?p=1770#comment-10819 Hi Jennifer,

That is an amazing post. I was targeting one of those niches too, mine had nothing to do with enlarging anything either 🙂 It is true though the rubbish has to be cleared away. It is a lesson to me to steer clear of over-saturated potentially spammy subjects in future.

There is so much to go after it shouldn’t be that hard.

Thanks for all the great info. Tony

]]> By: Ã…ke L. https://www.potpiegirl.com/my-theory-on-the-google-algo-change/#comment-10817 http://www.potpiegirl.com/?p=1770#comment-10817 A very interesting read Jennifer!

We’ve all heard a lot of talk about the algo update targeting content farms especially, but as you say, this seems to be pure invention.

When you think about it, content farms per se shouldn’t be a problem, only the large quantity of lousy content in them.

I believe Google is moving in the right direction with this update, although I find it a bit worrisome that the big G has such an enormous power over the internet. Unfortunately, with so many sites relying on organic traffic and the other search engines being so far behind, I don’t see the trend changing anytime soon.

]]> By: John Walker https://www.potpiegirl.com/my-theory-on-the-google-algo-change/#comment-10812 http://www.potpiegirl.com/?p=1770#comment-10812 Great analysis Jennifer!

I work with the oldest coupon website and it was wiped off the map for “coupon” search. We used to be in the top 3 and now we don’t even come up! Your analysis gave me some inspiration and seemed spot on with what we believe is happening. Our top 2 competitors were not affected while we and several others were destroyed.

I really believe you are onto something. Would you be willing to analyze our site against our competitors in a similar fashion and to consult with us? I sent this analysis to our CEO and he immediately asked me to hire you to consult with us.

Thanks again,

John

]]> By: John Walker https://www.potpiegirl.com/my-theory-on-the-google-algo-change/#comment-10811 http://www.potpiegirl.com/?p=1770#comment-10811 Great analysis Jennifer!

I work with the oldest coupon website and it was wiped off the map for “coupon” search. We used to be in the top 3 and now we don’t even come up! Your analysis gave me some inspiration and seemed spot on with what we believe is happening. Our top 2 competitors were not effected while we and several others were destroyed.

I really believe you are onto something. Would you be willing to analyze our site against our competitors in a similar fashion and to consult with us? I sent this analysis to our CEO and he immediately asked me to hire you to consult with us.

Thanks again,

John

]]> By: Marcel White https://www.potpiegirl.com/my-theory-on-the-google-algo-change/#comment-10800 http://www.potpiegirl.com/?p=1770#comment-10800 Here you have my testimonial.
GOOGLE SERPs quality didn’t improve with the new algo. Links from content farms almost disappeared but were displaced by links I’d rather prefer not to have. Instead of links from classic top article directories I found that the first position was for a link from a PR=0 site that copied and destroyed my articles and made them impossible to understand. I believe they were auto-translated from English to Chinese mandarin, then to Brazilian and back again to English (or so). Controlling content farms is a good idea but there is still a lot to do. No one wants to replace a bad solution that works with a good solution that doesn’t work.
Marcel White

]]> By: Hazuwan Hamdan https://www.potpiegirl.com/my-theory-on-the-google-algo-change/#comment-10788 http://www.potpiegirl.com/?p=1770#comment-10788 Million thanks Jennifer.
Now I think I understand what’s going on.
Your blog definitely will be one of my best resource to learn a lot of internet stuff.

Again thanks….

]]> By: Rick C. https://www.potpiegirl.com/my-theory-on-the-google-algo-change/#comment-10785 http://www.potpiegirl.com/?p=1770#comment-10785 Interesting numbers and analysis. I’m really surprised after all the good things that I’ve heard about Ezine articles. I bet this latest shake-up from Google really shook their higher staff up. And, from what I see in your numbers, it should have.

]]> By: Evelyn https://www.potpiegirl.com/my-theory-on-the-google-algo-change/#comment-10777 http://www.potpiegirl.com/?p=1770#comment-10777 It all makes perfect sense now – except, I’m sure there are more than 7 topics in question. I’m keeping an eye on a few of my keywords that used to be on the 1st page of google for the EZine article and right now, they come and go. It’s apparent that Google has not yet decided on their final update. I’m sure they’ll tweak until we all go Postal!

]]> By: Phil https://www.potpiegirl.com/my-theory-on-the-google-algo-change/#comment-10766 http://www.potpiegirl.com/?p=1770#comment-10766 Great analysis, numbers can be such fun! I’ve been wondering whether ‘average time on page’ might be soemthing they start to play with too – related to your comment about ad clutter. But, say there were two pages with no ads, then the one with higher avg time on page could be seen as having higher value to the reader (summed over lareg numbers). Sure, they could be frigged, but not easily where there is high visitor traffic anyway.

Keep it up!

Phil

]]> By: Jacques Groenen https://www.potpiegirl.com/my-theory-on-the-google-algo-change/#comment-10765 http://www.potpiegirl.com/?p=1770#comment-10765 I like this kind of analysis and content, especially because I get daily a lot of spam emails from so callad gurus who have nothing else to say as “this guy made xyz dollars with the next cheat & spam method. Internet as an automated garbage can, In Germany a secretary of defense recently had to give up his job because he cheated a university degree by plagiarism. Internet is full of cheaters who automate cheating and call/called(?) this Internet Marketing, mainly.a tsunami of garbage and get rich quick copy and paste foam. I don’t like big brother Google, but mountains of nonsensical garbage is even worse. Let’s wait and see where we are in 1 year.

]]> By: Genevieve https://www.potpiegirl.com/my-theory-on-the-google-algo-change/#comment-10760 http://www.potpiegirl.com/?p=1770#comment-10760 Boy am I late!
Ah well, better late than never.

Google’s stirred things up again. I’m in agreement with Wayne that ultimately money is their end result, but they pretend it’s for the customer experience. Back when there was buzz about Google Instant, Google claims it’s to save users time in writing, to find what they need faster. (Sorry, but I wasn’t aware this was a race.) But in reality, everyone knows they’re targeting keywords with higher search volume so they get more cost per click.

The solution for me–for everyone–is to not put all your traffic eggs in one basket, even the Google Egg Basket. When rankings waver with the next new latest and greatest change, at least you’re not scrambling for your footing.

I agree with and believe in the idea, for I too notice a lot of rehashed spam sites, but if only money were not their major motive . . .

On another note, I’m curious as to what will happen to places I know you use like Seo Link Vine for backlinks and content. In the five-step article strategy, you emphasize using one article. Won’t the hundreds of rewritten versions linking to your site cause it to lose value?

]]> By: Child Care Columbia https://www.potpiegirl.com/my-theory-on-the-google-algo-change/#comment-10747 http://www.potpiegirl.com/?p=1770#comment-10747 Good report!

Google has spanked Ezine, but I wonder if that effects how Google evaluates the links created on the Ezine articles. I really haven’t seen any of my websites drop in their rankings.

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